From: Thad Jones
Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 11:55:21 AM
Click the chapter title to view the following verse in context:
15And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
16Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
22If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
23He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
24If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
25But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
27And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
5But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
16A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
2 Corinthians 10
1Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:
2But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
7Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
8For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
9That I may not seem as if I would terrify you by letters.
10For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible.
11Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present.
12For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
13But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.
14For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:
15Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly,
16To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand.
17But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
18For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.
As the "Preacher" of Ecclesisastes concludes:
8Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.
9And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
10The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
11The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
12And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
From: Thad Jones
Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 9:19:20 PM
Subject: Re: 607 BCE Why it doesn't matter. (Jehovah's Witnesses.)
To: Thad Jones
Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 3:18:48 PM
Subject: Re: 607 BCE Why it doesn't matter. (Jehovah's Witnesses.)
1 Corinthians 8
1Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge.Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
2And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
3But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
Does "winning" an intellectual, academic argument bring the "losers" to faith in Christ or closer to God? The subject of the e-mail is "Why it doesn't matter." While your compendium of information and your lamentable family history are of unquestionable significance, it appears I failed to make the point. This is one of the bitterest pills of the Gospel. The Cross of Jesus Christ is the last thing we are looking for and yet the single object we most desperately need. It is the only true mirror whereby we can see ourselves as God sees us: hopelessly condemned and pricelessly beloved. Jehovah's Witnesses are blind to both of these realities and therefore labor under the delusion that they can and must merit God's approval based on their performance. They don't need to be shown that they are wrong. They need to be told that it's OK. That God has offered and accepted Christ in their place. That Jesus Christ did not come to put them to work, but to give them rest. Is there any room in your busy schedule or your crowded library for that, sir? Or is that not complicated enough for you?
25At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
I realize that my tone is hardly endearing. Popularity is among the things Jesus said His service would cost us. I endeavor to be effective in that which is unseen and eternal. There's a war on, you know. Perhaps Jesus' tone in Matt. 11:29 (above) will better express His intentions and good will toward us. It's also a good light in which to examine our own purposes and intents. (As the Father hath sent Me, so send I you...)
In re: Your critique of the 10-1-11 Watchtower, I've perused it.
In re: James Penton's book, the rank and file suffered heroically, but pointlessly.
Ditto for the JW's at Auschwitz.
The leadership, as always, is culpable in that. That is why the 10-1-11 Watchtower article on JW's in the Third Reich is obscene. It cynically promotes itself over other Christian sects on the basis of such pointless suffering and overlooking and suppressing the conscientious suffering of others under the same circumstances.
The juxtaposition of the Holocaust with the contemporary return of Jews to the land of promise is not a mere "parallelism". (It is so characteristic of the fallen human intellect to presume to scrutinize God from "above" as though He were under our microscope, rather than we under His.) The macro-historical focus of my blog post is the excesses of the totalitarian human impulse in the context of the sovereign mastery of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, Jesus Christ. It underscores the wisdom of due process of law, of checks and balances on state power, and the folly of imbuing Caesar with the prerogatives of God, all of which are expressions of the fear of God, which of course, is the beginning of wisdom. (To immanentize the Christian Eschaton.)
As the worn out saying goes,
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
(Oddly, the institutions for education and information in the United States of America
seem hell-bent on inducing historical amnesia in the populace. Do you suppose these are
the "ends" at which they are aimed?:
U.S. Constitution - Preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the generalWelfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
I somehow doubt it.)